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Post by Captain Zuloo on Sat 04 Dec 2010, 4:35 am

Fantastic, I love all the tiling in the interior. The spiral staircase is also very clever, good use of jumper plates to keep them from moving on top of each other. This ship is really coming along brilliantly, I expect to see it in Canberra in August. legowink

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Post by Lightningtiger on Sat 04 Dec 2010, 10:17 pm

Aw, man the captain's quarters is just AWESOME, such detail is almost too much.
Keep up the COOL work and also keep on going ARRRRRR ! legopirate

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Post by TazManiac on Sun 05 Dec 2010, 2:10 am

Some updates/changes after some great feedback on EB.

first my bell.


head rails adjusted.



now stepped not sloped.



Landing craft.



cargo hole.



capstan ( not working yet )



I know the layout is not conventional but hey it's a MOC.....

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Sun 05 Dec 2010, 10:57 am

I'm a little confused - the headrails are the white SNOT parts on the bow, but you don't seem to have adjusted them...

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Post by TazManiac on Sun 05 Dec 2010, 1:43 pm

ah my bad....... I later realised what Admiral Croissant was on about but have yet to change them .

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Post by TazManiac on Sun 05 Dec 2010, 11:14 pm

more like this??

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Mon 06 Dec 2010, 6:38 am

Ah, there we go, those are some headrails! Although I feel they need to be more curved, that they should be higher toward the figurehead. Make them more of an arc. You can see what I mean here and here.

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Post by TazManiac on Tue 07 Dec 2010, 1:04 am

Better?


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Post by Captain Zuloo on Tue 07 Dec 2010, 9:11 am

Yes, but I feel it may also be the angle. If you could put another plate under that 1 x 2 white tile just behind the figurehead, and raised the whole thing a little, I think it might look a little better.
Are you planning to include heads?

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Post by TazManiac on Tue 07 Dec 2010, 9:56 am

heads?
you've lost me buddy. do you mean more than one figurehead?

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Tue 07 Dec 2010, 12:45 pm

Haha, sorry. The heads are the water closets, the loos, the relievers, the sh*ters, the mens rooms, the...just read this.

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Post by TazManiac on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 2:00 am

maybe...
anyway here's a little update






and the Captain taking a well deserved break.( this hammock design may appear on the gun deck between the cannons)


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Post by Captain Zuloo on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 2:43 am

That looks brilliant! The decking being all tiled is really effective, and the shrouds are really tought which is a brilliant thing.
But if you'd like some constructive criticism...
Your ship is a very brigantine looking vessel in almost every aspect, but the masts seem to be too far back. You can see here what I mean. The foremast should be almost at the very front of the deck while the main mast should be just back of centre. Also, about the middle of the ship on either side should be a ladder for the small boats to pull along side. That's a detail I think you should certainly include, even if you don't move the masts. legohappy

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Post by TazManiac on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 3:31 am

yeah the ladders are some thing I had planned, and i Know what elements to use for them ( as they are par of the ship rather than ladders hanging from the railing or deck).
As for the masts if i move them more than one stud forward I loose access to the gun deck as the mid section lifts off and with custom rigging the masts have to be fixed to the top deck permanatly.
Cheers for the feedback it helps heaps.

just did a search for Brig of war and my mast placement looks near spot on.....
http://www.milhist.dk/englandskrigene/norway/Lougen_1805_500.jpg see.

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 6:46 am

That image you have does indeed have the foremast back a good bit, but it also has a much longer hull than your ship. I deliberately found an image of a fairly short brig, considering the short and stubby nature of LEGO.
You can see how I did the ladders on my ship here.

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Post by TazManiac on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 7:04 am

yeah that was the element I was thinking, that or the ones used on the porthole covers. the problem is the tumble-home I don't really want a flat bit in the middle (even if it's only two stud wide) but I'm working on it with the help of some good old jumpers.

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 7:16 am

Yeah, understandable. I avoided that with a different style of tublehome, but yours is good also, presents new challenges. Good idea using jumpers.
Another thing you'll want to think about is catheads. Are you going to use the anchor elements or will you do custom ones?

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Post by TazManiac on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 7:31 am

I've had a crack at brick built anchors but with little success, I'll do the catheads when I address the capstan, and anchor.
as for the ladder here's a starting point,

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 9:29 am

I didn't think the ladder would look ok there, but it's not too bad. Where abouts is it positioned on the ship? It should be almost dead centre.

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Post by TazManiac on Wed 08 Dec 2010, 10:20 am

that middle gun port is the dead center.

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Post by TazManiac on Sat 11 Dec 2010, 8:36 am

still needs a lot of work but here's a sneak peek.
Not really happy with the sails yet and hours of rigging to come.



comment welcome as usual.

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Mon 13 Dec 2010, 2:25 am

Hey TazManiac, that's brilliant! She really looks great now.
Sail wise, they don't look too bad, but your yards aren't quite spaced correctly. The foresail and mainsail (bottom sail on both masts) should be the biggest height wise, and the others should decrease in height the higher up the mast they are. If you do that, you can possibly fit some royals on the top.
Still, being LEGO, it can be as accurate or inaccurate as you like, doesn't really matter.

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Post by TazManiac on Tue 14 Dec 2010, 2:19 am

While waiting for more bricks to complete the gun deck ect. I've been friggin' in the riggin' as there was not much else to do.
It's getting alot closer to finnished ( still need to cut new sails )














As you can see Blocksworth's trusted crew are still rigging her up and stocking the stores.
Comments always welcome.

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Post by BrickTango on Tue 14 Dec 2010, 6:25 am

Love the sails like that! You rock!

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Post by TazManiac on Wed 15 Dec 2010, 5:49 am

another little update, rat lines are done now, and capstan is working.




and my favourite Like BrickTango said looks the best this way.




so that's the outside pretty much done just missing a few ropes here and there but not far away. starting work on gun deck as soon as parts arrive.

For my first attempt at a prefab hull ship I'm pretty happy with it, and my next one will be a lot easier now I have some experience.

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