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The choice of choices!

Post by xwfalc on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 5:37 am

So my fellow train fans, the question that haunts us all....

Do you build in 6 stud...or 8 stud?

I build in both depending on the loco im doing. I prefer 8 stud in terms of detailing, you can fit much much more. Plus the scale is better.
On the other hand, the trains become unwieldly and very expensive due to the large number of parts!

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Bodville on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 5:47 am

All my trains are 6 wide and your right it makes it hard to fit all the details in.
Much of my city is old skool so the vehicles are 4 wide. Now that city is running 6 wide I have been tempted to grow the trains by 2 studs but it isn't going to happen anytime soon.

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by xwfalc on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 5:58 am

ha ha, yeah im still trying to get use to 6 stud wide trucks and things. All my old 80s gear looks so small compared to todays stuff.
Still, there something about the oldies....
Id say many of them are older than a few of our members he he

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Captain Zuloo on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 6:05 am

I think you could easily run both widths on the same layout. There are different width trains, although mostly a standard width. But I know that the width of Sydney suburban trains is different to that of Melbourne suburban trains (or so I've been told).

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by xwfalc on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 6:10 am

oh i do...I have the Emerald Night sitting next to my 520 and they look great together. It actually helps as the Emerald is a 4-6-2 pacific class and IS much smaller in real life than my big girl, so they look awesome next to each other. Next on the list is a 621 class....6 stud, an RX class...6 stud, and i wouldnt mind doing one of our adelaide oldies the old red hen! Ugly damn things, brown and orange.....brillant colour scheme! pukebrick !! But oh well, need the room, time and $$ for that.
I wanna try my hand at a garrat aswell maybe....have to be 8 stud though

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Post by peterab on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 7:35 am

Most of my stuff to date is 6 wide. In the future I may go to 7 wide for some stuff, and I've just built a tanker wagon which because there's no 6 wide cylinders is 8 wide.

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Post by peterab on Sun 27 Sep 2009, 2:56 pm

Captain Zuloo wrote:I think you could easily run both widths on the same layout. There are different width trains, although mostly a standard width. But I know that the width of Sydney suburban trains is different to that of Melbourne suburban trains (or so I've been told).

Well the Melbourne suburban network is still broad gauge as well, so it doesn't surprise me that the train widths would vary.

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Swashbuckler Petrie on Mon 28 Sep 2009, 12:55 pm

I Recon in some respects 6 studs is better interms of show but if its play factor then I'd have to say 8 studs as it gives you more room on the inside. Zuloo & Bodville know more about showing off lego trains then I do but I've still done it twice legotoungesmall:

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Darth Legois on Mon 28 Sep 2009, 1:58 pm

I prefer 6 Stud better it just looks betting IMO.

But I know pretty much nothing about trains and only own one train set. legotoungesmall:

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Captain Zuloo on Tue 29 Sep 2009, 2:35 am

The problem with 8 wide is that although it looks better, it has to be much larger so it costs more, and most 8 wide trains don't take to LEGO standard tight radius curves too well. Being longer than 6 wide trains, they hang off in the middle of the curves. Does that make sense?

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Post by Swashbuckler Petrie on Tue 29 Sep 2009, 2:55 am

Captain Zuloo wrote:The problem with 8 wide is that although it looks better, it has to be much larger so it costs more, and most 8 wide trains don't take to LEGO standard tight radius curves too well. Being longer than 6 wide trains, they hang off in the middle of the curves. Does that make sense?

Yeah.. I see what you mean by the corner thing.. It means that for exhibitors 8 trains are alot harder to fit on a small layout because the track would need to be atleast 3-4 studs apart. Hey Zuloo remember how we have to seperate the track by 1 stud because the "Metro Liner" and the "Holiday Train" kept hitting each other

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Captain Zuloo on Tue 29 Sep 2009, 3:12 am

Haha, indeed. That's why we need bigger tables. legolaugh

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Post by Swashbuckler Petrie on Tue 29 Sep 2009, 9:47 am

Captain Zuloo wrote:Haha, indeed. That's why we need bigger tables. legolaugh
Yes but for that we need more money legolaugh

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Captain Zuloo on Tue 29 Sep 2009, 9:52 am

Tychop wrote:Yes but for that we need more money legolaugh
Tychop, welcome to the LEGO hobby. legowink

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Swashbuckler Petrie on Thu 01 Oct 2009, 5:23 am

Ahh yes money is what every good LEGO fan needs... or alternativly they just need parents with credit cards legolaugh

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by peterab on Thu 01 Oct 2009, 7:03 am

Tychop wrote:Ahh yes money is what every good LEGO fan needs... or alternativly they just need parents with credit cards legolaugh

Unfortunately being 43 I very rarely get to play with my parents credit cards anymore, and they're not much more use to me than my own :-(

I like 7 wide because its not much wider than the six wide lego standard but it allows a lot more playability and detail. It's a compromise but it has good features of both 6 & 8 wide, and avoids some of the unique troubles of each.

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Thu 01 Oct 2009, 7:06 am

Do you use jumper plates to attach the bogies to the car bodies peterab?

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Post by peterab on Thu 01 Oct 2009, 7:29 am

Captain Zuloo wrote:Do you use jumper plates to attach the bogies to the car bodies peterab?

I used on of those two by three plates with a hole for my E44. if supported correctly its fairly strong, but it does come off when you try to take the bogie off. Gambort suggested technic plates with holes, but I dont have any.

I used jumper plates on the beer wagon, but it doesnt have rotating bogies so it was easier.

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by peterab on Tue 23 Mar 2010, 12:18 pm

The bigger tables is not so hard, I've build a table for my train layout which holds 3x6 32x32 stud baseplates. The materials were selected on the basis of being cheap at my local Bunnings and cost about $30. I've just bought some more materials for a second one. Unfortunately I have to pay my credit card back legosmile2

I've seen the plans for Cpt Zuloos current train display, and it could do with some more room to seperate the tracks a bit.

BTW back on topic, I'm just about to convert some of my passenger cars to 7 wide.

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Captain Zuloo on Tue 23 Mar 2010, 12:35 pm

Agreed, it would be preferable to at least have a stud between the two lines, but like you say - space is a problem. Next year I shouldn't have such a problem though. I'll be building the layout in sections two, and I have long skinny tables wide enough for 2 lines with 8 studs between them the bridge the two main sections.

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Re: The choice of choices!

Post by Captain Havoc on Sat 27 Mar 2010, 2:42 am

I only build in 8 stud because its more to scale and you can fit so much more detailing into it. But the corners are a problem, so I try and have only straits when I set up my track, but it doesn't really work very well. legotoungesmall
I'm thinking about doing something in 6 studs

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Post by Captain Zuloo on Sat 27 Mar 2010, 11:36 am

Or, why not try the best of both worlds and build something in 7-wide?

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